Comments on: Evangelisation https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2023/08/30/evangelisation/ The New Zealand National Catholic Newspaper Thu, 07 Sep 2023 23:12:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Brendan Davies https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2023/08/30/evangelisation/#comment-96298 Thu, 07 Sep 2023 23:12:22 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=27120#comment-96298 I admire your positivity Helen, but I’m afraid you’ve off the mark if you think becoming more active in social justice is going to do anything but further the Church’s head first leap into becoming just another NGO. To ‘restore all things in Christ’ as the most insightful and holy pope of the 20th century had as his motto, means adhering to Sacred Tradition, and rejecting everything that goes against it. The longer the hierarchy, and some faithful tell themselves that the Church’s glorious past shouldn’t be carried into the future, the longer the demise will continue, and indeed accelerate. NewChurch has been a failure, Sacred Tradition, and all that goes with it, is the only thing that will get Christ’s bride back on track. God bless!

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By: Gregory https://nzcatholic.org.nz/2023/08/30/evangelisation/#comment-96261 Wed, 06 Sep 2023 22:34:07 +0000 https://nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=27120#comment-96261 In other words, do everything.

Layers of paradoxical dichotomies and straw-manning positions don’t help clarify and encourage.
A church of the poor has not sprung into being in the last five years; what were most of the saints and other nameless disciples of the last 20 centuries doing?

I’m Gen-X and I’ve heard this line of reasoning fillip all my life `- it is not working. It might get a sagacious head-nod from a diocesan committee but it’s not working.

If I want to do “advocating for social justice issues, such as poverty alleviation, environmental stewardship, and human rights…”, I can join planned parenthood, join a political party, join Rotary or Lions, join the op-shop, join a stream clean-up, join the footy club, join a yarn-bombing, or join the latest social fad. And my generation and younger has and does that. None of it super-naturally saves.

We’ve been told explicitly and tacitly, in praxis and policy for the last 40 years that tradition, liturgy, belonging to a Parish, knowledge of the Faith before this week, a Catholic family life doesn’t really matter, that it’s just about personal experience, feelings, and your immanent worldly actions – this demographic situation is the result.
We are mute before the world, not because of a divine humility but because of our “color-in activity” level ignorance we have much to be humble about.

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