Comments on: Why are they leaving?

By: Francis

Francis — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 01:57:49 +0000

In addition to the comments by John, the Church was growing directly prior to Vatican II and the introduction of the New Mass. Vocations were increasing, and the number of Catholics were increasing worldwide. Then with Vatican II and the Novus Ordo Mass introduced in the 60s, the numbers have dropped dramatically in all areas, Priestly Vocations, Religious Vcations, Mass Attendance, belief the Real Presence, etc….The experiment to water down the Faith and the Liturgy to please the Protestants and the Secular World has been a complete failure. Yet there is still lots of hope. While Churches are being emptied, amalgamated and numbers walk away from the Church, there are quickly growing communities and congregations, seminaries and parishes worldwide which have gone back to the Traditional teachings and the Traditional Latin Mass. And there are many young people at these Masses. So I beg all the Bishops of NZ to open their eyes to this and speed up the restoration of the Faith and help reverse the crisis by returning to the Traditional Catholic teachings taught and lived by all the Saints and Popes over the centuries, and return to the beautiful and reverence and Catholic in every way, Traditional Latin Mass!. For the sake of souls and the glory of God it needs to happen asap!

By: John Whittaker

John Whittaker — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 22:51:30 +0000

From as early as I can remember we, our family, went to Mass every day.
We were never told we had to, or we should go went because we wanted to.
It was along time ago. I am 82

After Vatican II, when I was married we embraced the new Mass – or tried to
up until recently.
But I have felt like just like a spectator for the past 40 years.
There was a program some years ago, “Worshipping under Southern Skies -Rediscovering the beauty of the Mass”
Well I did, when I went to a Traditional Mass. It was beautiful.
In my opinion Vatican II destroyed the Mystery, the Solemnity and most of all the Reverence of the Mass.

The Encyclical of Pius V “Quo Primum” in 1570 establishing the Latin Mass because of all the variations should be read by all Catholics.
And the sensibility of that Encyclical come to mind when we were in Singapore
The church of Our Lady of Lourdes was within walking distance of our hotel and there were listed no fewer than 7 Masses on Sunday in 7 different languages.
English, Chinese (traditional), Portuguese, Malay, Arabic, Chinese (mandarin), Sri Lankin.
If it was in Latin then each worshipper would have the Latin and the translation in their own language in the Sunday Missal.

By: Daniel Ogrodowski

Daniel Ogrodowski — Mon, 14 Nov 2016 18:13:14 +0000

Catholic Church leaders have no one but themselves to blame for the mass exodus of the faithful.

The all male princes of the church have continually claimed to be superior than those that are not ordained. They claim to be the moral authorities of the free world and demand to be addressed as “Your Eminence” “Your Excellency” or “Your Grace” . They claim that they have the keys to the kingdom of heaven and that only their church can put their followers on the path to a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. ……………………………………. Then the sexual assault of children by priests and church leaders coverup became public news in 1985…………………………………………………

When Church leaders came together and decided to respond to this horrific problem with lies, deceit and unholy treatment of victims and their families , that was the beginning of the downfall. When the media in Boston was like Toto in the Wizard of Oz and pulled the curtain open to expose that church leaders knowingly transferred dangerous pedophile clergy to new and unsuspecting parishes unnecessarily creating many more child victims. The lies and secrets stared to be exposed.

This organization has had more than 40 years to change the way that they respond to victims and they still to this day fight the release of documents that tell the true story. They fight victims at every turn using the most slimy legal strategies.

Most Catholics now know that their bishops are not anywhere near an “Excellency” and has shown that they are not a moral authority. They have acted more like lawyers than shepherds or pastors.

People have figured out that they do not need a bishop, priest or church to have a personal, profound experience of Jesus Christ and of his love. People that have this relationship with Jesus understand that Jesus would not exclude women from clergy and leadership roles in his church and would not discriminate against LGBT people because they understand that Christ welcomed all.

People have left the church because of the many actions of church leaders which are the exact opposite of what Jesus teaches.