Comments on: Vatican could consider Lutheran ordinariate structure https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2012/10/31/vatican-could-consider-lutheran-ordinariate-structure/ The New Zealand National Catholic Newspaper Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:24:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4 By: Gary Yates https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2012/10/31/vatican-could-consider-lutheran-ordinariate-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-1362 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:08:33 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=4810#comment-1362 Kiwi1, I agree entirely. I’m such a convert (from the Tudor Experiment) and a very, very grateful Catholic. To think that the heretical doctine of Luther (founded on Arius) may formally get the opportunity to plant it’s seed back into The True Catholic Faith makes me shudder. Also, I cannot understand why any Lutherans would want an identity, as such, within the body Catholic. The English Catholic Church is quite a differnt case; it has a Catholic tradition that predates St Augustine of Canterbury.
Gary Yates

]]> By: kiwi1 https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2012/10/31/vatican-could-consider-lutheran-ordinariate-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-1300 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:54:48 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=4810#comment-1300 In my opinion this is absurd.

History will judge Luther as having broken the unity and continuity of the Church which Christ founded to the serious detriment of European history.

Centuries of religious wars and mutual persecutions resulted from his heresy (denial of Christian doctrines) and schism (creation of a parallel church).

The modern crisis in the Church and society, many Catholic scholars believe, stems from the Protestant Revolt and ultimately Luther. How? The principle characteristic of Luther’s actions was rebellion against external authority (no pope, sola scripture, personal interpretation etc). This novelty expanded in the consciousness of society (long story how…) until today we have a dictatorship of relativism e.g. ‘my body, my choice’. it all goes back to what Luther did.

Was what Luther did inspired by God? Our Lord said: “Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand.” Matt 12:25

In my opinion, the name Luther ought to be forgotten forever. Any Lutheran who converts ought to re-join the Church their forefathers left.

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