Comments on: Underground in the cave of Bethlehem https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2011/12/29/underground-in-the-cave-of-bethelehem/ The New Zealand National Catholic Newspaper Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:20:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4 By: editor https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2011/12/29/underground-in-the-cave-of-bethelehem/#comment-59 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:47:46 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=3880#comment-59 Jan, I have not approved your comments as I think they are either defamatory of the author, or are close to it.

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By: JAN https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2011/12/29/underground-in-the-cave-of-bethelehem/#comment-58 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:49:45 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=3880#comment-58 I support Lea’s article answering the subtle allegations. Jew Hatred and Shahada for Allah, is taught in Judea and Samaria to Arab children from Kindergarten upwards, hence a fence to prevent suicide bombers entering Jerusalem and missing out on 72 virgins in paradise as their prize, plus preserving Jewish lives. Many countries in the world have separation fences or walls, Israel is certainly not unique in that. Jew Hatred even exists among some Arab Christians taught in a Church school in Bethlehem, as I have heard in a Bethlehem born Arabs testimony. As a Christian I too have been to Bethlehem, but was not impressed with so called Christians worshipping shrines, or the regular broom fights among clergy, that also applied to the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City, I found swooning activites there by folk sickening, hence I didn’t feel to go further inside than the entrance hall. We are called to worship God, and live and walk daily in relationship [not religion or ritual] with the RISEN Jesus. This site along with many others are assumed sites , a Messianic Jewish friend told me if we knew the correct sites, they would be worshipped rather than Jesus. Doesn’t the Bible warn about doing that? Isn’t it worshipping idols, statues and buildings.

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By: editor https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2011/12/29/underground-in-the-cave-of-bethelehem/#comment-57 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:57:00 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=3880#comment-57 Your views are clearly strongly held, Lea, and fair enough. However, I think they may be a bit misapplied in this case. The article you are responding to is not political — I read nothing political in it. It is, I believe, an accurate report of a significant part of a religious pilgrimage.
— Editor

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By: Lea Hullett https://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/2011/12/29/underground-in-the-cave-of-bethelehem/#comment-56 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:04:58 +0000 http://www.nzcatholic.org.nz/?p=3880#comment-56 Regarding the Israeli checkpoints and as a just returned Catholic with an interest in Israel, I would like to comment on Israeli checkpoints. I would have been happier if you had included the reason why Israel finds it necessary to have checkpoints and mentioned the suicide bombers before the wall. Has Israel no right to protect its citizens against indoctrinated extremists who send children and donkeys laden with bombs to kill innocents? Every country in the world has passport and security checks, even our own despite being surrounded by water and far from any conflict. Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries whose one desire is to destroy the one democratic (MMP like us with Arabs in parliament) country with a diverse ethnic and religious (20 percent Arab) population.
Please read this article: Seasonal Illwill and also some of the others on the Kiwis for Balanced Reporting in the Middle East web site.
I could write so much more. I could ask if you know why the Jews who fled Arab lands because of persecution were absorbed into Israel, while the Arabs who fled Israel (Jordanians) were called Palestinians and kept as refugees after 1948? Jews were known as Palestinians before 1948. There was no Palestinian race of people nor criteria which makes a people as such. No Palestinian language, history lands. Meanwhile Palestinian propaganda and media misinformation flourish, all aiming to destroy Israel, the country instigated legally by a vote of nations. The Bible is a record of the Jews presence in the land. Hebrew is the language of Jews kept throughout the persecution down the years.
There is a saying: Lies fly while truth struggles beneath its load.
Lea Hullett

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